Contract Proof Request Letter

Summary

If you have never agreed to any terms with a subsidiary electricity provider, you can request documentation to prove the contracts existence. Legal precedents like Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking Ltd [1970] EWCA Civ 2 and Interfoto Picture Library Ltd v Stiletto Visual Programmes Ltd [1989] QB 433 support the need for clear and explicit notice of terms. A contract does not necessarily need a signature to be enforceable, but terms must be clearly communicated and agreed upon. If no agreement exists, you can take further action, including filing a complaint with Ofgem and seeking legal advice.

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does this case apply in electricity provider
Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking Ltd [*] EWCA Civ * primarily concerns the incorporation of terms into a contract and whether notice of those terms was adequately given.
To better assist you, could you specify the issue or contract term you're concerned about with your electricity provider?
altering terms and conditions mid term
Thank you for clarifying your issue. When it comes to altering terms and conditions mid-term for electricity providers, the following points are relevant:
- Providers must give adequate notice of any changes to terms.
- Customers have the right to terminate the contract if they disagree with the changes.
- Notice periods and rights to exit without penalty should be clearly stated.
Could you specify if you have received a notice about the changes from your provider?
how can a billing company state they are your provider,
It sounds like you have a concern about a billing company claiming to be your electricity provider. To better understand your situation, could you clarify if you received any official notification from your original provider about transferring your account to this billing company?
no
Thank you for providing that information.
Here's a relevant point to address your situation:
- If you did not receive any official notification from your original electricity provider about transferring your account, the billing company's claim may be incorrect.
You may want to:
- Contact your original provider to confirm your account status.
- Report this issue to Ofgem, the regulator for electricity and gas markets in Great Britain.
Would you like more information on how to proceed with contacting Ofgem?
i have all they sent was a welcome pack
Thank you for providing the details. Here's what you can do next:
- **Contact your original provider**: Confirm if your account has been legitimately transferred.
- **Report to Ofgem**: File a complaint about the billing company's claim.
Would you like more information on how to contact Ofgem or need assistance with drafting a report?
the company is a subsidery company
Thank you for clarifying. Here’s what you can do next:
- **Confirm with Original Provider**: Verify if your account has been transferred to the subsidiary company.
- **Contact Ofgem**: Report the situation if the transfer was unauthorized.
Would you like information on how to contact Ofgem or assistance with drafting a report?
original dont exist
Thank you for the information. Here are the steps you can take:
- **Contact Ofgem**: Report the situation, especially given that the original provider no longer exists and you have concerns about the subsidiary's legitimacy.
- **Seek Legal Advice**: Consider consulting a legal advisor for specific guidance on your rights and next steps.
Would you like more information on how to contact Ofgem?
how do i stand in law with legal rubbish
If you're dealing with an electricity provider issue where the original provider no longer exists and a subsidiary has taken over, here’s how the law generally stands:
- **Consumer Rights**: You have the right to clear information about your electricity provider.
- **Adequate Notice**: You should receive adequate notice and documentation about any changes, including transfers.
- **Regulatory Oversight**: Ofgem oversees and regulates such matters.
Would you like detailed steps on how to contact Ofgem?
deed of assignment required
Thank you for providing all the information.
To clarify, are you requesting guidance on obtaining a deed of assignment related to the transfer of your electricity account? If so, could you please specify if you have any existing documentation or communication from the billing company that might pertain to this transfer?
yes
Thank you for clarifying. Here’s what you can do to obtain a deed of assignment related to the transfer of your electricity account:
- **Contact the Subsidiary Company**: Request a deed of assignment to verify the transfer.
- **Document Everything**: Keep records of all communications.
- **Contact Ofgem**: Report any issues or lack of response.
Would you like detailed steps on how to contact Ofgem?
no they are a waste of time they just talk shite
I'm sorry to hear you're frustrated. To assist you further, could you please clarify if you're seeking:
- Guidance on how to request a deed of assignment from the subsidiary company, or
- Information on other legal steps you can take regarding your electricity account issue?
can you write a letter requesting all what is reqired lawfully from the companty to prove a contract exists
Certainly! Here is a draft letter you can use to request all the necessary documentation to prove that a contract exists with the subsidiary company:
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[Your Name]
[Your Address]
[City, Postcode]
[Email Address]
[Phone Number]
[Date]
[Subsidiary Company Name]
[Company Address]
[City, Postcode]
Subject: Request for Documentation to Prove Contract Existence
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am writing to formally request documentation to substantiate the existence of a contract between myself and [Subsidiary Company Name] for the provision of electricity services.
Specifically, I request the following:
- A copy of the Deed of Assignment or any other document that confirms the transfer of my account from the original provider to your company.
- All terms and conditions that apply to my account.
- A copy of any welcome pack or initial communication sent to me upon the transfer.
- Any notices or correspondence regarding changes to the terms and conditions since the transfer.
- Detailed records of all billing and payment history since the transfer.
Please provide these documents within 14 days of receipt of this letter. Failure to do so may result in me taking further action, including but not limited to filing a complaint with Of
carry on
Certainly! Here is the continuation of the draft letter:
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gem and seeking legal advice.
Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.
Yours faithfully,
[Your Name]
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Feel free to customize this letter to better fit your needs. Would you like any further assistance?
caselaw to suport my claim for the to prove
To support your claim regarding the need for proof of contract existence and proper notice, you might consider citing the following cases:
- **Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking Ltd [*] EWCA Civ ***: Establishes the principle that terms must be adequately brought to the attention of the consumer before a contract can be considered binding.
- **Interfoto Picture Library Ltd v Stiletto Visual Programmes Ltd [*] QB ***: Emphasizes the necessity for clear and explicit notice of any onerous terms.
Would you like more details on these cases or any additional information?
yes
Certainly! Here are brief summaries of the cases that can support your claim:
- **Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking Ltd [*] EWCA Civ ***:
- **Principle**: Terms must be adequately brought to the attention of the consumer before a contract becomes binding.
- **Key Point**: If terms are not made clear at the time of contract formation, they cannot be enforced later.
- **Interfoto Picture Library Ltd v Stiletto Visual Programmes Ltd [*] QB ***:
- **Principle**: Clear and explicit notice is required for any particularly onerous or unusual terms.
- **Key Point**: Simply including terms in a document is not enough; they must be specifically drawn to the attention of the other party.
Would you like any further assistance or more details on these cases?
rewrite and incorporate the cases and key points also info of does the contract need a signiture
Certainly! Here's the revised text incorporating the key points and case law, along with information on whether a contract needs a signature.
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**Question:** It seems you are referring to a landmark case: Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking Ltd [*] EWCA Civ *. This case is significant in contract law, particularly regarding the incorporation of terms into a contract.
Would you like information on the legal principles established in this case, or do you have a specific question related to your own situation?
**Answer:** Does this case apply to an electricity provider?
**Question:** Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking Ltd [*] EWCA Civ * primarily concerns the incorporation of terms into a contract and whether notice of those terms was adequately given.
To better assist you, could you specify the issue or contract term you're concerned about with your electricity provider?
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Certainly! Here's the revised letter incorporating the key points and case law, along with information on whether a contract needs a signature:
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[Your Name]
[Your Address]
[City, Postcode]
[Email Address]
[Phone Number]
[Date]
[Subsidiary Company Name]
[Company Address]
[City, Postcode]
Subject: Request for Documentation to Prove Contract Existence
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am writing to formally request documentation to substantiate the existence of a contract between myself and [Subsidiary Company Name] for the provision of electricity services.
Specifically, I request the following:
- A copy of the Deed of Assignment or any other document that confirms the transfer of my account from the original provider to your company.
- All terms and conditions that apply to my account.
- A copy of any welcome pack or initial communication sent to me upon the transfer.
- Any notices or correspondence regarding changes to the terms and conditions since the transfer.
- Detailed records of all billing and payment history since the transfer.
To support my request, I would like to refer to the following legal precedents:
- **Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking Ltd [*] EWCA Civ ***: Establish
carry on
Certainly! Here's the continuation of the revised letter:
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- **Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking Ltd [*] EWCA Civ ***: Establishes that terms must be adequately brought to the attention of the consumer before a contract becomes binding. If terms are not made clear at the time of contract formation, they cannot be enforced later.
- **Interfoto Picture Library Ltd v Stiletto Visual Programmes Ltd [*] QB ***: Emphasizes the necessity for clear and explicit notice of any particularly onerous or unusual terms. Simply including terms in a document is not enough; they must be specifically drawn to the attention of the other party.
Additionally, I would like to clarify whether a contract between myself and [Subsidiary Company Name] requires a signature to be considered legally binding. According to general contract law principles, a contract does not necessarily need a signature to be enforceable; however, the terms must be clearly communicated and agreed upon by both parties.
Please provide these documents within 14 days of receipt of this letter. Failure to do so may result in me taking further action, including but not limited to filing a complaint with Ofgem and seeking legal advice.
Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.
Yours faithfully,
i have never agreed to anything
Thank you for your patience. Here's the revised letter considering your statement that you have never agreed to anything:
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[Your Name]
[Your Address]
[City, Postcode]
[Email Address]
[Phone Number]
[Date]
[Subsidiary Company Name]
[Company Address]
[City, Postcode]
Subject: Request for Documentation to Prove Contract Existence
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am writing to formally request documentation to substantiate the existence of a contract between myself and [Subsidiary Company Name] for the provision of electricity services. I have never agreed to any terms or conditions with your company; thus, I require proof of the following:
- A copy of the Deed of Assignment or any other document that confirms the transfer of my account from the original provider to your company.
- All terms and conditions that apply to my account.
- A copy of any welcome pack or initial communication sent to me upon the transfer.
- Any notices or correspondence regarding changes to the terms and conditions since the transfer.
- Detailed records of all billing and payment history since the transfer.
To support my request, I refer to the following legal precedents:
- **Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking Ltd [*] EW
carry on
Certainly! Here's the continuation of the revised letter:
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- **Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking Ltd [*] EWCA Civ ***: Establishes that terms must be adequately brought to the attention of the consumer before a contract becomes binding. If terms are not made clear at the time of contract formation, they cannot be enforced later.
- **Interfoto Picture Library Ltd v Stiletto Visual Programmes Ltd [*] QB ***: Emphasizes the necessity for clear and explicit notice of any particularly onerous or unusual terms. Simply including terms in a document is not enough; they must be specifically drawn to the attention of the other party.
Additionally, I would like to clarify whether a contract between myself and [Subsidiary Company Name] requires a signature to be considered legally binding. According to general contract law principles, a contract does not necessarily need a signature to be enforceable; however, the terms must be clearly communicated and agreed upon by both parties.
Please provide these documents within 14 days of receipt of this letter. Failure to do so may result in me taking further action, including but not limited to filing a complaint with Ofgem and seeking legal advice.
Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.
Yours faithfully,