Car Sale Refund Dispute
Summary
If you sold a car privately and the buyer acknowledged its condition in a signed receipt, they may not be entitled to a refund under the Consumer Rights Act 2015. However, court outcomes can vary, so professional legal advice is recommended.Full Conversation
sold a car buyer trying to get a refund in the uk
Hello Robert, could you please clarify if there was a written or verbal agreement in place regarding the car sale? This information will help me give a more accurate response.
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Hello Robert, in the UK, if there was a written agreement and the car was accurately described, the buyer may not be legally entitled to a refund. However, if the car was not as described, the buyer might have rights under the Consumer Rights Act *.
the vehcile has rust and the buyer signed a receipt where it said car will neeed some welding
Hello Robert, based on the information provided:
- The car was described accurately prior to sale.
- The consumer signed and acknowledged the condition of the vehicle.
In this case, under the Consumer Rights Act *, the buyer may not be entitled to a refund as they were aware of the vehicle's condition before the purchase.
- The car was described accurately prior to sale.
- The consumer signed and acknowledged the condition of the vehicle.
In this case, under the Consumer Rights Act *, the buyer may not be entitled to a refund as they were aware of the vehicle's condition before the purchase.
can you check a letter i want to send them to make sure its legally correct
Of course, Robert. Please share the content of the letter you wish to send, and I'll check its legal correctness to the best of my knowledge and understanding.
Dear Mr. Gardner,
August * *
Without Prejudice
I appreciate your concerns regarding the Toyota Hilux (registration SW09 DHL) you purchased from me on January *, *, after leaving a deposit a few days prior.
To clarify, the Toyota Hilux you purchased was sold privately by me. The vehicle was registered in my name, and the payment was deposited into my personal bank account. The paperwork for the sale accurately reflected these details.
Regarding the vehicle's condition at the time of sale, you and your father inspected the vehicle, left a deposit, and then collected it a few days later. Any further inspections could have been arranged during this period. The vehicle had a valid MOT certificate available on the government website, demonstrating that it met the required safety standards at the time of sale and importantly was roadworthy.
At any time, you could have had someone inspect the truck and provide a second opinion.
In your last letter and in a recorded voicemail from your father, both of you questioned the validity of the MOT. As I suggested, if there were any concerns about the MOT, those should be addressed with the DVLA. Since then, I have seen no further mention of this issue.
Additionally, in your latest letter, once again you acknowledge the receipt, which clearly stated that the Toyota "will need some welding," indicating that sometime in the future, attention to the vehicle was necessary. I don't understand how much clearer that can be.
This disclosure was made to ensure you were fully aware of the vehicle's condition. You still proceeded with the purchase, likely due to the vehicle's low mileage and overall good body condition and of course price.
To the best of my knowledge, I provided an accurate description. Your signature on the receipt is an acknowledgment of this. At the time you purchased the vehicle, which was more than six months ago, it was in very good mechanical condition and the body was in above-average condition for an older Toyota truck.
This disclosure regarding potential future rust repairs was made at the time of sale, which was not a requirement. Since the sale, the truck has been in your possession and used for your purposes. If the truck was used for heavy work, or traveled many miles, it would have been prudent to have it inspected, especially as you knew and were given the knowledge that welding might be needed in the future.
I am reiterating this so you can recall the actual events. Even today, a Toyota truck with that mileage would be difficult to find at the price you paid. There was a reason for that, and it is clearly stated on the receipt you signed.
Despite my previous request, you have not provided any proof to support your claims about the vehicle's condition. As I previously mentioned, "However, I remain open to any specific repair quotes or evidence you can provide demonstrating that the welding needs were drastically underrepresented or mischaracterized at the time of sale."
If you believe you have a legitimate claim, you may pursue this matter through the courts, where mediation is compulsory, and let an impartial party make the decision. I am prepared to recount the details of the transaction as they occurred with the court-appointed mediator and, if necessary, the Judge.
Sincerely,
Robert Vernon
* Evesham Road
Astwood Bank
Dear Mr. Gardner,
August * *
Without Prejudice
I appreciate your concerns regarding the Toyota Hilux (registration SW09 DHL) you purchased from me on January *, *, after leaving a deposit a few days prior.
To clarify, the Toyota Hilux you purchased was sold privately by me. The vehicle was registered in my name, and the payment was deposited into my personal bank account. The paperwork for the sale accurately reflected these details.
Regarding the vehicle's condition at the time of sale, you and your father inspected the vehicle, left a deposit, and then collected it a few days later. Any further inspections could have been arranged during this period. The vehicle had a valid MOT certificate available on the government website, demonstrating that it met the required safety standards at the time of sale and importantly was roadworthy.
At any time, you could have had someone inspect the truck and provide a second opinion.
In your last letter and in a recorded voicemail from your father, both of you questioned the validity of the MOT. As I suggested, if there were any concerns about the MOT, those should be addressed with the DVLA. Since then, I have seen no further mention of this issue.
Additionally, in your latest letter, once again you acknowledge the receipt, which clearly stated that the Toyota "will need some welding," indicating that sometime in the future, attention to the vehicle was necessary. I don't understand how much clearer that can be.
This disclosure was made to ensure you were fully aware of the vehicle's condition. You still proceeded with the purchase, likely due to the vehicle's low mileage and overall good body condition and of course price.
To the best of my knowledge, I provided an accurate description. Your signature on the receipt is an acknowledgment of this. At the time you purchased the vehicle, which was more than six months ago, it was in very good mechanical condition and the body was in above-average condition for an older Toyota truck.
This disclosure regarding potential future rust repairs was made at the time of sale, which was not a requirement. Since the sale, the truck has been in your possession and used for your purposes. If the truck was used for heavy work, or traveled many miles, it would have been prudent to have it inspected, especially as you knew and were given the knowledge that welding might be needed in the future.
I am reiterating this so you can recall the actual events. Even today, a Toyota truck with that mileage would be difficult to find at the price you paid. There was a reason for that, and it is clearly stated on the receipt you signed.
Despite my previous request, you have not provided any proof to support your claims about the vehicle's condition. As I previously mentioned, "However, I remain open to any specific repair quotes or evidence you can provide demonstrating that the welding needs were drastically underrepresented or mischaracterized at the time of sale."
If you believe you have a legitimate claim, you may pursue this matter through the courts, where mediation is compulsory, and let an impartial party make the decision. I am prepared to recount the details of the transaction as they occurred with the court-appointed mediator and, if necessary, the Judge.
Sincerely,
Robert Vernon
* Evesham Road
Astwood Bank
Your letter is comprehensive and outlines your position clearly. However, it's important to note that while I can provide general guidance, I am unable to provide specific legal advice. I would advise you to seek advice from a legal professional before sending this letter to ensure all your points are legally sound.
if this went to small claims based on what you have seen will i be able t defend myself
Based on the details shared:
- You sold the car privately.
- The buyer was aware of the car's condition, which was acknowledged in a signed receipt.
- You made no false claims about the car's state.
These factors generally favour your position. However, outcomes in Small Claims Court can vary. It's advisable to consult a professional for personal legal advice.
- You sold the car privately.
- The buyer was aware of the car's condition, which was acknowledged in a signed receipt.
- You made no false claims about the car's state.
These factors generally favour your position. However, outcomes in Small Claims Court can vary. It's advisable to consult a professional for personal legal advice.
i do voulantry work for a car dealer and i found a truck i liked i bought it but it prooved to big so after it was in my name i sold it the new buyer after 6 months claims it was not fit for purpose and wants his money back i dont know whathe did with teh truck and how many more miles its done should i be concerned as i told him and got him to sign a receipt staaating it neded some welding but he did not follow up on it
Based on the information provided:
- You sold the vehicle privately.
- The buyer was aware of the vehicle's condition, as acknowledged in the signed receipt.
- There were no false representations about the vehicle's condition.
Under the Consumer Rights Act *, the buyer may not have a strong case for a refund, considering they were aware of the vehicle's condition. However, outcomes in court can vary and professional legal advice is recommended.
- You sold the vehicle privately.
- The buyer was aware of the vehicle's condition, as acknowledged in the signed receipt.
- There were no false representations about the vehicle's condition.
Under the Consumer Rights Act *, the buyer may not have a strong case for a refund, considering they were aware of the vehicle's condition. However, outcomes in court can vary and professional legal advice is recommended.